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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:05 pm    Post subject: Disgorgers Reply with quote

I have been wondering about making a T bar type disgorger for removing flies from a trout's throat/ mouth.. I find that pliers tends to destroy the dressing of the fly after a couple of removels..
The first trial is with a length of coat hanger wire and if it works something more permanent will be made. Does anyone use anything along these lines?
My theory is, like a T-bar the wieght of the fish is used to remove the hook as the bar is holding the hook at the bend, thus protecting the dressing, well maybe Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have converted the vast majority of my flies to bespoke barbless and 9 times out if 10 the hook falls out when the fish is in the net. That being said I would say the hook up rate and netting rate is as good as fishing with barbed flies. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot off my hooks are also barbless and yes they do come out in the net but there are times when even barbless remain stubbornly stuck in place especially when back drifting with boobies..
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Baker Hookout myself (google it Wink) - short jaws to grab the bend of your hook (not the shank which destroys the dressing) - a gentle push then releases the hook -



All my flies are debarbed and I fly fish for PIKE Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Peter,

Apologies, just seen this.
Like you, I have some legacy flies that have tied on barbed hooks, been debarbed and need extra help to free.
I use a plastic thingy I got from a fishing shop, Stonefly did an inexpensive version of it.
https://www.sportfish.co.uk/stonfo-quick-release-tool.html

Gear is currently in hibernation, but if I can find it, I'll take a picture of it and post it.
AH, remembered!!, mine is a "Ketchum Release tool"
Really easy to use, and very effective/


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Moray wrote:
Hello Peter,

Apologies, just seen this.
Like you, I have some legacy flies that have tied on barbed hooks, been debarbed and need extra help to free.
I use a plastic thingy I got from a fishing shop, Stonefly did an inexpensive version of it.
https://www.sportfish.co.uk/stonfo-quick-release-tool.html

Gear is currently in hibernation, but if I can find it, I'll take a picture of it and post it.
AH, remembered!!, mine is a "Ketchum Release tool"
Really easy to use, and very effective/


HTH,
Tony


I have one of the expensive versions. I also have a freebie which I got attached to a magazine years ago. The freebie looks a bit like a large plastic coarse fishing disgorger. It worked as well as the expensive one, in fact probably easier to use, but over the years the line has started to cut through the plastic barrel shaped end. All my flies are barbless or debarbed and I try and do my best to remove the ones that dont come out in the net with my fingers. Sometimes though a stubborn one just needs some sort of tool. Always carry forceps but do worry about them destroying the dressing so last resort only.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have made two versions of the T bar type disgorger. They do work but can not handle all the various positions that the hook is inside the mouth. If you check out my last back drifting video you can see it in use.
Thanks for the tips on products that are available I will search them out.
When fishing boobies I always use barbless or barbs removed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem with using disgorgers on trout is that you have to aske them nicely to keep still while you shove something down their throats to remove the hook. They are rarely very cooperative in this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true, if they don't have lots of teeth a chin grip can help.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

Are you staying in Watford at present or in London?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in London currently but need to head to Watford next week.
Trying to avoid travel and public transport.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a bit of thought, I realised that my aim is to use my T bar disgorger for removing boobies as apposed to standard flies. So the suggested disgorger would not work as it would not pass over the eyes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

Have a look at Scott Tackle. They do a handy looking disgorger for a tenner.
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