The Complete Fisher Forum Forum Index The Complete Fisher Forum
Social, Fly, Coarse and Sea Fishing with Fly Tying
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   Referral CenterReferral Center    CalendarCalendar    RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in   ChatChat    Fisheries DatabaseFisheries   Donate    RSS Feed
http://www.thornwoodtroutfishery.com/

Varnish

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic       The Complete Fisher Forum Forum Index -> Fly Tying -> Fly Tying Discussions
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Fryfishing
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 1451
Location: Watford Hertfordshire

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject: Varnish Reply with quote

Am I the only one on here that has given up using varnish sold for fly tying?
These days I only reach for the Sally Hansen and never use the stuff that the likes of Veniards package and sell.
Over the years I found that flytying varnish thickens up very quickly does not dilute very well and seems poor value compared to the likes of nail varnish.
It is sometimes difficult to know what is best when you are tying flies on your own with out much input from other humans into how what when and where.

Maybe I should rejoin the Flydressers Guild, if they still have a local branch.
P
_________________
Floating Lines, buzzers, nymphs, stick floats, maggots and throwing lures at bitey things.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
tenet
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 1888

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sally Hansen for me and occasionally Deer Creek uv resin for salmon flies and glue buzzer.😎
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wylye
250 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 02 Apr 2014
Posts: 431

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't often use varnish except on some of my superglue or spanflex style patterns. Other than that I find a couple of 5 turn whip finishes enough to see the fly out, although I have started to varnish the heads on some of my diawl bach and hares ear nymphs when I have tied them with red flourescent floss. This stuff doesn't much like the attention of trout teeth so a spot of HAN prolongs the fly's active life.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fossil-fish
2,500 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 2626
Location: Carrickfergus, County Antrim

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sally Hansen for me as well. Keep a bottle of newish,thinner, stuff for coating buzzers and an older, thicker, bottle for finishing fly heads. Will also make the bottles last longer by adding cellulose thinners that I bought in a specialist model shop.
_________________
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
Douglas Adams

https://en-gb.facebook.com/woodfordfly/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Phoogle Map
Allrounder
5,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 5043
Location: Somerset. UK

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't remember the last time I used varnish on a fly. These days I use waterproof superglue (Anglin' Glue) where I previously used varnish, Bug Off UV resin and Serious Glue .

The only downside I've found to superglue is you must avoid it getting in the eye of the hook at all costs as it very difficult to remove once it has set!

Alan
_________________
Member of ...
The Angling Trust
BRFFA
B.A.S.S.
Pike Fly Fishing Association

If you see me on the bank, say hello.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Phoogle Map
tenet
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 1888

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allrounder wrote:
I can't remember the last time I used varnish on a fly. These days I use waterproof superglue (Anglin' Glue) where I previously used varnish, Bug Off UV resin and Serious Glue .

The only downside I've found to superglue is you must avoid it getting in the eye of the hook at all costs as it very difficult to remove once it has set!

Alan


Pull a small feather through the eye after applying glue, varnish, resin etc. Works for me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Allrounder
5,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 5043
Location: Somerset. UK

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That works Doug, but you have to pull it through quickly or it will get stuck inside the eye! Laughing

Alan
_________________
Member of ...
The Angling Trust
BRFFA
B.A.S.S.
Pike Fly Fishing Association

If you see me on the bank, say hello.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Phoogle Map
Fryfishing
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 1451
Location: Watford Hertfordshire

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried to dilute down hard as nails with cellulose thinners but it tends to make it go cloudy?? I have also tried nail polish remover and that does not work well.
May need to do some googling.

Update to above, pure acetone does it.

P
_________________
Floating Lines, buzzers, nymphs, stick floats, maggots and throwing lures at bitey things.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
BristolFlyer
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 24 Apr 2008
Posts: 1986
Location: North Somerset

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Funky varnish has been the best I'v ever used. Almost finished now so I hope they still do it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Phoogle Map
Fryfishing
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 1451
Location: Watford Hertfordshire

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always get in a mess with super glue, fingers stuck together, spill it on the desk and leave the top off (then it dries up).
The best stuff was super glue gel that I bought in a pound shop and currently using Gorilla super glue, I knocked it over and it went all over the place.
Sad
_________________
Floating Lines, buzzers, nymphs, stick floats, maggots and throwing lures at bitey things.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Allrounder
5,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 5043
Location: Somerset. UK

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fryfishing wrote:
I always get in a mess with super glue, fingers stuck together, spill it on the desk and leave the top off (then it dries up).
The best stuff was super glue gel that I bought in a pound shop and currently using Gorilla super glue, I knocked it over and it went all over the place.
Sad


I have done the 'knock over the bottle' trick too Peter, so nowadays I only use the stuff with a small nozzle rather than a brush.

A really good fly tyer I have watched a few times at BRFFA fly tying evenings uses the bog standard superglue that comes in small tubes that you get in multi packs in £1 shops. He places a droplet of superglue on a disposable surface and uses his dubbing needle to place the glue exactly where he wants it. I now do the same with my choice of superglue, except I use a cocktail stick. Smile

Alan
_________________
Member of ...
The Angling Trust
BRFFA
B.A.S.S.
Pike Fly Fishing Association

If you see me on the bank, say hello.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Phoogle Map
tenet
1,000 Post Club
User is Offline


Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 1888

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had a bottle of gorilla gel and a bottle of gorilla ordinary glue both go off am well pleased at £5 a pop. Will be using pound shop small squeeze tubes going forward. Ki
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic       The Complete Fisher Forum Forum Index -> Fly Tying -> Fly Tying Discussions All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

This board is protected by Phpbbantispam
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group